FURTHER RESEARCH
RED LIGHT THERAPY
Red light has been proven to offer many health benefits and I am interested in experimenting:
https://www.everydayhealth.com/wellness/potential-health-benefits-of-red-light-therapy/
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The following paper describes pictorially the cellular and molecular mechanisms associated with LLLT:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3065857/
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US company RLT (Red light Therapy) website (selling their own light arrays) provides tables correlating wavelengths to multiple health benefits although I have no idea of the accuracy. However at the bottom they do list links to many papers, which I've added below for further study.
https://redlighttherapyhome.com/blogs/news/wavelengths
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The Nuts and Bolts of LLLT
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22045511/
635nm for Body Contouring of the Waist, Hips, and Thighs
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23355338/
660nm Does Not Require Cytochrome C Oxidase
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30927704/
670nm: Evidence From In Vivo and In Vitro Stress Models
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29355737/
670nm LLLT on Herpes Simplex Type 1
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51764626
810nm in Skeletal Muscle Performance and Post-Exercise Recovery
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27575834/
904nm Mitigates Exercise-Induced Skeletal Muscle Fatigue
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29455305/
820nm Exert Effects on Cell Attachment
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11312037/
904nm Decreases Expression of Catabolism-Related Genes
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29455305/
Effect of Wavelength and Beam Width on Penetration
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5653719/
Anti-Inflammatory Effects of Photobiomodulation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5523874/
Photobiomodulation for Brain Disorders
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066074/
RLT in Reduction of Fine Lines, Wrinkles, Skin Roughness)
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/pho.2013.3616
The Effect of Low-Level Laser Therapy on Human Leukemic Cells
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25987972/
The Effects of Laser Light on Sperm Motility and Velocity In Vitro
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6721237/
Low-Intensity Laser Irradiation Improves Mitochondrial Dysfunction of C2C12 by Electrical Stimulation
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5365461
Photobiomodulation of Human Dermal Fibroblasts In Vitro
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317390155
LLLT In Skin: Stimulating, Healing, Restoring
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4126803/
Impact of Heat on Metabolic and Hemodynamic Changes
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28948191/
Red Light Emitting Diodes Accelerate Hepatocytes Proliferation
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29710411/
Can Osteoarthritis Be Treated with Light?
https://arthritis-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/ar4354
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In addition, this paper indicates 670nm + 830nm is ideal for (ATP neuron function) wound healing:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0021925820761259
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Oxygenated haemoglobin absorbs light at 940nm, de-oxygenated haemoglobin absorbs light at 660nm.
There may be a benefit to applying a combined 660nm + 940nm light close to blood vessels (at the navel)
US company BestQool: https://www.bestqool.com/blogs/news/how-red-light-therapy-improves-circulation
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But hang on a minute:
Sunlight is broad spectrum light. If you filter out all harmful UV+IR, it is just as beneficial as fixed bandwidth LED/laser treatment. Scientific papers discuss photobiomodulation of CCO (cytochrome c oxidase), a key protein in cellular metabolism, when exposed to certain of its absorption peak wavelengths: 660nm, 670nm, 830nm, benefits tissue repair. Multiple wavelengths are therefore better than one or two from single wavelength lasers/LEDs. Lying in the sun under a bandpass filter that only admits 660nm to 830nm (or whatever the CCO absorption bandwidth is) should have the same benefit. The only issue is guaranteeing the sun will be out when you want it. The solution is the humble tungsten filament lamp with its broad spectrum encompassing all of the aobve wavelengths, far cheaper than lasers or LEDs.
LLLT FOR EYESIGHT
It is already proven a weekly 3-minute exposure at 8mW/cm² of 670nm dark red light to the eyes between 8am and 9am improves colour reception in ageing eyesight and I do this every Monday morning:
[H1] Weeklong improved colour contrasts sensitivity after single 670 nm exposures associated with enhanced mitochondrial function, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-02311-1
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2021/nov/morning-exposure-deep-red-light-improves-declining-eyesight
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Of note - the cheap '670nm' torches flooding eBay China are rarely that wavelength; I bought a couple and found them to be 637nm & 641nm, totally useless. I bought 670nm LEDs and made my own,
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'a person in their 60s has smaller pupils than a person in their 20s, making it harder to see in low-light conditions.'
https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2025/jan/24/healthy-aging-process-60s
Derived from:
https://ufhealth.org/conditions-and-treatments/aging-changes-in-the-senses
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LLLT FOR HAIR REGROWTH
It has already been proven that red light can promote hair regrowth (see below) and Bryan Johnson wears a $3k LD cap for this. However it might not matter whether expensive LDs or inexpensive LEDs are used.
HOW IT WORKS
[H2] Photobiomodulation (PBM) for the Management of Alopecia. This paper provides illustrations of follicle structure and alternative LLLT treatment devices together with extensive investigations of wavelength efficacy, together with a definition of LLLT PBM: 'The mechanism of LLLT in hair regrowth enhances the stimulation of mitochondria located in hair bulge stem cells, with cytochrome c oxidase (CCO) in the membrane of the mitochondria as the target chromophore of red light. This then leads to mitochondrial respiration, with reactive oxygen species (ROS) and adenosine triphosphate (ATP) to activate cellular proliferation, migration, and oxygenation, which consequently promote hair growth.7'
[H3] LLLT (Low Level Light Therapy) Hair Growth Devices Compared. 'absorption peak at 660nm 31 of CCO',
'Due to the very low power of LEDs (0.5mW/diode), compared to the appropriate [LD] dose of 2 to 4J/cm2, the results of LEDs could not be obviously concluded.30.
[H4] Photobiomodulation: Lasers vs. Light Emitting Diodes? 'nevertheless, some head-to-head studies, which compared both light sources, yielded no difference in their effects.28'
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Further feedback in this article indicates some scanned LLLT devices performed slightly better. This may be because they covered more follicles; a LD has a narrow beam and when LDs are mounted in fixed positions there will be gaps between adjacent LDs. The argument for using LDs is they have more power, but the amount of power that can be safely shone at a head without damage is severely limited (remember sunburn?) and these days powerful LEDs are everywhere, therefore I don't see any argument for LDs over LEDs other than marketing hype. Mass produced low power LDs for LLLT (Low level Light Therapy) are cheap nowadays, thus I suspect LD based products are actually a price mark-up scam for the gullible.
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I suspect all that is needed is uniform light intensity across the scalp, and a simple diffuser between some high power LEDS and the scalp should suffice. Ebay China offers 0.5W SMD 660nm + 850nm LED arrays on a flexible backing for back ache that may also work for hair provided they are indeed 660nm. However they are spaced very far apart (60 LEDs 255mm x 133mm) so this may be unworkable. Probably far better to source good 660nm LEDS and fabricate a compact, diffused carrier instead.
HEARING LOSS RECOVERY
Hearing declines as we age:
https://ufhealth.org/conditions-and-treatments/aging-changes-in-the-senses
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My hearing has degraded over time and like Bryan Johnson I now have severe HF roll off, meaning I often confuse spoken words due to my inability to discern high frequencies. I also suffer from tinnitus. LLLT has been described as beneficial both to hearing loss and treatment of tinnitus. Below is a small sample of papers summarising clinical trials:
LLLT FOR TINNITUS
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[H10] Efficacy of Low-Level Laser Therapy for Tinnitus: A Systematic Review...
1 trial (650nm, 830nm): NONE,
[H11] Combined Central and Peripheral Stimulation for Treatment of Chronic Tinnitus...
1 trial (808nm): POTENTIALLY, when combined with LF rTMS [magnetic field];
December 2023, eBay China is flooded with white Apple-like wired earphones purportedly containing bog-standard 650nm red LDs which conflict with the above. The ear canal (transmeatal) is not the best route as the target inner ear is obstructed by bones and tissue and does not follow a straight line. Unless a dangerously high intensity is employed, the typical 5mW source is unlikely to do anything.
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A more effective route may be 830nm (based on LLLT for hearing loss, below) through the skull space cavity for, but outside the ear, or possibly below the jaw pointing up toward the inner canal or even orally within it however these would still have to go through bone. No paper mentions a jaw based route.
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-ap1/chapter/the-skull/
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I would consider experimenting with low level 830nm below the jaw. How brain-safe is experimental rTMS?
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02/25, Deepseek:
Q++ Which wavelength(s) have been reported in scientific papers as beneficial for reducing tinnitus? What is the maximum power in milliwatts at the skin surface, that these wavelengths can be safely applied?
'Current Evidence for Tinnitus treatment by low-level laser therapy (LLLT)
Lack of Large-Scale Studies:As of now, there are no large, randomized controlled trials (RCTs) that definitively prove red light therapy is effective for tinnitus. While some individuals report significant improvement in their tinnitus symptoms after using red light therapy, others notice no effect. This variability may be due to differences in the underlying causes of tinnitus. Even if red light therapy provides some relief, it’s unlikely to completely eliminate tinnitus, especially if the condition is chronic or severe.
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Small Studies and Anecdotal Reports:
Some small studies and case reports have suggested that red light therapy may help reduce tinnitus symptoms, particularly when the tinnitus is associated with conditions like noise-induced hearing loss or cochlear damage. For example, a 2012 study published in the International Tinnitus Journal found that LLLT improved tinnitus symptoms in some participants, but the study was small and lacked a control group.
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Mechanism of Action:
Red light therapy is thought to improve mitochondrial function and increase blood flow to the inner ear, which could theoretically help repair damaged cells or reduce inflammation in the cochlea.
It may also have a calming effect on the nervous system, which could help reduce the perception of tinnitus.
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Application:
The light source is typically applied to the ear or mastoid bone (behind the ear).
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Wavelengths Reported in Scientific Papers:
650nm (Red Light) is commonly used in LLLT and has been studied for its potential to improve cellular repair and reduce inflammation. Example:
A 2012 study in the International Tinnitus Journal used 650 nm laser therapy for tinnitus treatment.
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808nm (Near-Infrared Light) penetrates deeper into tissues and is often used for conditions involving the inner ear or cochlea. Example:
A 2017 study in Lasers in Medical Science used 808nm laser therapy to treat tinnitus associated with cochlear damage.
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830nm (Near-Infrared Light) is also commonly used in LLLT and has been reported in some studies for tinnitus management. Example:
A 2019 study in Frontiers in Neurology explored the use of 830 nm laser therapy for tinnitus.
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Power Levels and Dosage is critical. Most studies use lasers or LED devices with power outputs ranging from 5mW to 500mW. For tinnitus specifically, lower power levels (e.g., 5-50mW) are often used to avoid overstimulation or damage to sensitive tissues.
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Energy Density (Fluence) is typically measured in Joules per square centimeter (J/cm²).
Studies often use energy densities ranging from 1J/cm² to 10J/cm² per session.
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Treatment Duration:
Sessions usually last between 30 seconds to 10 minutes, depending on the device and protocol.
Treatments are often repeated multiple times per week over several weeks.
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Maximum Safe Power at the Skin Surface, general safety guidelines:
650nm safe power levels are typically 5-200mW at the skin surface.
Higher power levels (e.g., 200-500mW) may be used for short durations but require careful monitoring to avoid tissue damage.
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808nm and 830nm safe power levels are generally 5-500mW at the skin surface.
Near-infrared light penetrates deeper, so lower power levels (e.g., 5-100mW) are often sufficient for tinnitus treatment.
General Safety Threshold:
The maximum safe power density for skin exposure is typically considered to be 200mW/cm² for continuous wave lasers or LEDs. For pulsed lasers the safety threshold may be higher.
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Example Protocols from Studies
Wavelength 1: 650nm Laser:
Power: 5-50mW
Energy Density: 1-4J/cm²
Duration: 1-5 minutes per session
Frequency: 2-3 times per week for 4-6 weeks
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Wavelength 2: 808nm Laser:
Power: 10-100mW
Energy Density: 2-10J/cm²
Duration: 2-10 minutes per session
Frequency: 2-3 times per week for 4-8 weeks'
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Q++ A laser may provide a narrow focus but the tissue associated with tinnitus is not typically the width of a narrow laser beam. Therefore a broader beam LED light source should surely be better at treating tissue mass?
A'While lasers offer precision and depth of penetration, the broader beam of an LED light source can indeed be advantageous for treating conditions like tinnitus, where the target tissue (e.g., the cochlea, auditory nerve, or surrounding structures) is not a single, narrow point but rather a broader area.
Why a Broader Beam (LED) Might Be Better for Tinnitus:
Tinnitus often involves multiple structures, such as the cochlea, auditory nerve, and surrounding blood vessels. A broader beam from an LED can cover more of these areas simultaneously, potentially enhancing therapeutic effects. Some studies have shown that LEDs can achieve similar therapeutic effects to lasers when the total energy delivered is equivalent.
Lasers: Lasers have been the focus of most tinnitus research, but their narrow beam may not be ideal for covering the diffuse or hard-to-reach structures involved in tinnitus.'
Q+++ An LED can be pulsed with a higher current to provide an intensified beam of light that can match laser power levels considered safe for LLLT treatment of tinnitus. Do you know of any papers that have done this, and if so, what were the LED wavelength, pulse duration and the power intensities?
A'while there are no specific studies using pulsed LEDs for tinnitus, research on the conditions described below suggests the following could be effective:
Wavelength: 650nm or 808nm to target the cochlea and auditory nerve.
Pulse Duration: 10-50ms to balance penetration and safety.
Peak Power: 100-500mW to achieve therapeutic effects without overheating tissues.
Energy Density: 2-10J/cm² per session.
Frequency: 10-50Hz to match biological rhythms and enhance cellular response
1. General Photobiomodulation Studies:
Pulsed LEDs have been shown to improve cellular repair, reduce inflammation, and enhance blood flow, which are mechanisms that could also benefit tinnitus treatment.
Wavelength: 630-660nm or 800-850nm.
Pulse Duration: 1-100ms.
Peak Power: 100mW to several watts (with average power kept low).
Energy Density: 1-10J/cm².
Frequency: 1-100Hz.
2. Neurological Applications:
Pulsed LEDs have been shown to improve neuronal function and reduce oxidative stress, which could be relevant for tinnitus associated with neural damage or inflammation.
Wavelength: 810nm.
Pulse Duration: 10ms.
Peak Power: 250mW.
Energy Density: 2-4J/cm².
Frequency: 10Hz.
3. Wound Healing and Tissue Repair:
Pulsed LEDs have been shown to accelerate tissue repair and reduce inflammation, which could support recovery in the cochlea or auditory nerve.
Wavelength: 660nm.
Pulse Duration: 50ms.
Peak Power: 500mW.
Energy Density: 5J/cm².
Frequency: 20Hz.'
LLLT FOR HEARING LOSS
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[H12] The Effect of Low-Level Laser Therapy on Hearing
1 trail (532nm, 635nm): NONE, (the only trial based on humans)
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[H13] The Effect of Photobiomodulation on Hearing Loss: A Systematic Review
17 trials ([H12], 808nm, 810nm, 830nm, 908nm,): IMPROVEMENT observed 810nm-830nm
[H14] Low-Level Laser Therapy for Prevention of Noise-Induced Hearing Loss in Rats
1 trial (808nm): 165mW/cm² for 30 mins over 5 days: IMPROVEMENT reduced hearing loss in rats.
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[H13] explains the relationship between red light and 'cytochrome c oxidase [CCO], a key protein in cellular metabolism and repair and one of three major proteins in the human body responding to near-IR'. This paper collates multiple trial results, revealing 'evidence suggests the wavelength with the highest potency of biomodulation is 800–830nm. This is likely due to the absorption spectrum of [CCO] which has a peak of 830nm'. 'Although [CCO] also absorbs strongly at wavelengths less than 630nm, this is within the visible light range and has a lower rate of tissue penetrance than wavelengths in the near-IR. Penetrance of lasers through the tympanic membrane and other tissue structures of the inner otic capsule [https://radiopaedia.org/articles/otic-capsule] is superior in the near IR range (780–1100nm).'
IOW anything below 810nm is unlikely to be of much benefit.
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Paper[H14] includes a CCO absorption graph with an absolute peak of 760nm for the 'relatively reduced CuB chromophore of [CCO]'. Other peaks are shown at 620nm, 680nm and 820nm, at odds with the papers above. 760nm provides the deepest tissue penetration and appears to be used for wound healing.
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There may be some benefit in exploring low level (LED) 830nm over long periods for hearing loss, combined with a DIY pulsed magnetic field mimicking rTMS, which I assume works due to iron in blood.
DENTAL POCKET REDUCTION
My dental pockets are deeper than they should be. Bryan Johnson says he reversed his without surgery using Tea Tree oil (and Co-Q10 gel following deep cleaning. Publicised trials appear to back this up.
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Paper [H5] Tea Tree Oil versus Chlorhexidine Mouthwash in Treatment of Gingivitis, indicates Tea Tree oil does indeed shrink dental pockets. Tee Tree Oil is highly toxic but this excellent paper describes
in detail how much to administer as a safe mouthwash. Commercial products exist, with added ingredients:
https://drorganic.co.uk/products/tea-tree-mouthwash-500ml/droteatremouthwsh.aspx?productid=droteatremouthwsh
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[H6] Comparative Evaluation of Efficacy of Topical and Intra-Sulcular Application of Co-enzyme Q10
[H7] A Comparative Evaluation of Topical and Intrasulcular Application of Co-enzyme Q10
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Papers [H6], [H7] indicate Co-Q10 applied topically significantly shrinks dental pockets. I'm not a dentist, but the word intrasulcular appears to mean the gap between the tooth and gum. [H6] compares topical and intrasulcular application. Unsurprisingly, the latter is more effective. [H7] describes the efficacy of commercial product Perio-Q gel, sold here: https://www.perioqgumconditioner.com/#contact
although at $80 it's eye-wateringly expensive for just 5ml without the Co-Q10 quantity mentioned. Alternatives exist, e.g. this 5ml bottle with a stated 6mg of Co-Q10 per gram (I haven't tried it):
https://www.vitalabo.co.uk/life-light/dentomit-q10-tooth-gel
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Paper [H8] Effectiveness of Co-Q10 Oral Supplements, suggests purely supplemental Co-Q10 does not appear to reduce pocket depth, but it does reduce oral inflammation.
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LLLT FOR DENTAL POCKET REDUCTION
Few LLLT papers exist that mention dental pockets, probably because dental knowledge and treatment hides behind large fees. However two instances mention 670nm, so I will experiment with this.
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Implementation of Low-Level Laser Therapy in Dentistry: A Review, 'Lasers with a 670nm wavelength that are combined with conventional periodontal treatments lead to better treatment outcomes and shorter treatment times', IOW it heals quicker which must suggests there is less infection, which in turn suggests this will reduce pocket depth.
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Low Level Laser Therapy in Periodontics - a Review, '670nm along with typical periodontal treatment result in betterment of treatment outcomes, as well as stability in treatment time'
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371395507_LOW_LEVEL_LASER_THERAPY_IN_PERIODONTICS_AA_REVIEW
Low-level Laser Therapy in the Oral Cavity: A Retrospection in the Future​, '3mW 632.8nm He-Ne laser more effective than 3mW 650nm LD [at reducing] pocket depth' but '70mW 780nm LD and 35mW 630nm laser [no effect on pocket depth]'.
https://www.scientificarchives.com/public/assets/articles/article-pdf-1664458414-813.pdf
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